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17: Gary Robertson

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I talk to Gary Robertson on the February episode of Dundeecast. In this episode we discuss Dundonian dialect words, his passion for Dundee and poetry and what he plans to do for the future! Also a great little conversation about the word, 'teckle'.

Hello and welcome to Dundee cast. Myname is Andrew Batcher and it's great to hopvy here. This is a bodcast toShowkis Dunde and its people and their inspiring stories, and I am lookingforward to speaking to a lot of new people in the snake of episodes. I wantto see thank you to Dami mcman for awe me ous on music from a podcast, Intruand Atru. So thank you again, Damy and also tet. You all know that Dunde Cas Iam going to do no onamentaly basis due to the fact that I am getting more busybecause of the increaseing support Thae Cultures. Getting so that it's makingme feel bit busy. So I will usobly din the podcast I knowstowe paning, butwill probably be once sommonth instead of actual episodes per week, so yeah.So I can't wait to let you hear Gary and myself talk about than doingdialect, words and- and I hope you enjoy it, what made you STURP? Whatmade you want to start doing? PORTRY and I know you're an officer as well.So how did it all start for you, ATS, along story? ANDREBOL TRENCH? Giveyou the TOT vells, you know that s black T, two thousand and one anappeal ONA a reality. TV program called ATSU TOUGENOFG, so tha as right. At the start, areality, TV programs and I went te Ed of that ended up one Ontat,so athat Tam, Nover, even n of Memyin...

...to do any of Ratin, and I come backtroug one in the program and I says, O you know what I'm Goinna. Do We diteday by ther, going through the trials? The SES program so started: Do not letRin a boot foorin pages and IIS KEP Wat and what rate a book about goingthrough this thin. So I probably thought was going to be aMovin e. It nothe easy so anywhere sat don and I staft at writing justateaning from the program being accepted on the program and Gongthrough it and everything that happened nd, so that that was that at startedRitin an a Fundet I really loved it and because gon back to the skill this Iwasn't a dusk. But I di' like to mock a it in the class so rather than stickin an after a goot.Second Year I was Ju. Seeing a carry on so yeah writon for me was was noughnowhere Mer what was in my head thing. So yeah stop rating US Brook whatch.Our deat ended up funishing it and a set after words of publishers, thankingSomebody'll, accept and wat thousands of Pones likedoes, O Wak like that Sto. Whatwhat eventually done? My motherwore gave us the money toPutup Se pubosher we accompany doing an Englan. So that's what done and I got.I think it was maybe a thounsand copies and were solt doors just amongst pos andReilovesnot that and I made enough money just to br, even an really to topay my mother Ben Lor back, but that...

...was me Stuf a rihten so and betweenright and the SES tand on the TV starte ther getting petic kingdom wanescoming Outon, my head, which Wen, if you know brup er, blackgrindas, thathe,total working class, houstand skim back and just then other daff things thatwere ded. So the met Mentione, a portry when wewere at skilled, was totally nonal mean I probby bottons in a streamersays he was meant nothing to us really. We were just young Dufis, so yeah. Let started getting some poitic thingscoming UOM the head. When was Weatin es ces, then, and ive been Goo, O alot in the Suplostrainind running over the house, and I just started riating Tus. We thinkcalled Sublaw Sunter, just a Bot here, an we wander over the house and theitone Roe enjoyd it so thatthat wish me cangte DUP in the toosand writing any kind of port and the sould be kin yo. Just after the SESprogram Buck and two thousand and one so what happened then I was walking through the ton Onda inse set I donde and I semn a Pu Massov poster and a hote pum on by a guycalled Kavin mckin and the funt. The thing that struck me right away that Iwas Wrienin Don Dolian ton, the Oria Alle longuage, O me. We knor Andatwas called smack. It was reallyhard Ha and ev t the the heroine problem and Dondi, but just really knocked me over Hoselik wowsomeon and were in tong...

...because really ha av never seen thatbefore. Like many people like generation notbe now so much know because thingsare changing, but yoere always dealskir. Even at home. My woman Di re late speakproper. That was quite from he pont to speak,Orin and Dunde dialect. So yeah to see the poor e Kevin andbroad dundy was was fantastic and I seen that we button the Boaton of thePostar was t was from health ton horizons, Awasor, breaten group up andthe old POB, the Hihwinman op in the whole to Wat helpim Anso. I thought ofBi weeks, and I was. I was wooking on Niht chef that the Damon the NCR and eventually bought up the correge to go int. Thisrihting group CHUCP the door really nervous and wentand and ther was Karin. My Cap whod wratpen Tup pom and an ar gay calledMike Tomson and Wa certainbe the trutor from away from e a kin of mind that Nimthat's really bad. But anywhere ther was just the two of them so Wen, and Ithink I had a raten plad in a pan and th. That was that we just sat doinginthis Starto blatup these guys- and it was such a an amazing tone for me because theseguys were written in Don Donian and I was like tha as at a fund. Whatof been no one was looking for, but someone that really stupped the pashing,the SELA seand. For me, it's always been the language that the Tese ar soidenty, so they guys peoere, Tiber, Ritin, portraid and Miror Portland wereperforming at the world, the woe hassand of what thad written andperforming it to people, and it was...

...like wow that is metal. So I juststartind stuck in the head right Tatsin each week with don up one every secondor thord week when I wasn't on Shefts wrol tebed at two o'clock in the Air OmTin, to got these classes not of lofh or nature, but Aras fom, a Normano we're just gotto get stetin doing and the subjects just started coming: Ino The handand eEr, O writing. Abit Brin stuff, but for me, was rea lot: RIIN E B, growing up inthe,Hoosin, schemesand and Mainlyi the humor just whatwe're, getting up to playin Dong at the Botom ner good, thebailies another, and I just snowboled Fou the other. So that was that started writing in a I went. I went off like anovelanc breakme up was that and Thait's really interesting, yourbackstory and on a you're teing that you went on to and went onto you knowwearning about this. I mean your efentially realys gang to Bundee ofhemright, an yeah, and what was what was the process like that? What was ideasbehind het and what was you know the whole? I was a processed from firstidea to publication what was AWA again. Everything comes fo, the SESprogram to start and wrating, and then the Rit in the portry at the wholeHelton Horizons Group. So like I was sying subjects of was writin. The bootwas very patacular FTOR meand growing up so ritten a poom called Gans, an Don dejust Ta bit other guns that used to run a Bot, Dufdays werein the gun, jompers.The colors and and fight we ather Schems, I mean that was at- was reallycrazy times, so that Ratin, the...

...pormabit and Curryin on feea that wewas started getting out, o the the poformance portly macil Bahes, and what a Droan and gon up andDanato we audience fostlay and Dunde Toverin writon group, absolutely teever Ain. We I've been inbox and rangs of Jo to era, Plan Ska Days N, a tat but yess. This was on anewer level and nervousness so the performane of what was great just just to get foodbackinpeople and joying the words that you'd written so well start Gong through Enbit was open, mice, nightan the Detron bar an Ednburh and me, and Mike andcare would go through and stop stuff. Just didn' Wat, Donete,Portra and plus a lot of Portin, which we were heain was was very apy to us. Iwas definitely what we were o Ding. We were just right and the obe there, thescheme stepped off and I was going Doig goot and a guy was coming on at these nates. Oh God, what's his name? A lorth pressgovern back Doogle, governmnt doogall from lorth press, he d up a book company and don't anEverbur sorry, so he he is really alike to me and Mark Wok in and he says I'd liketo publish your wock. So it's like wow, that's just unbelievable, went throughembruet speaking wim and Gud, but we'll just gase for the schimsand we're going to get books published. So it was a collection of a portry thatwe're done so well wel. We talking...

...about thit. It was Hanna Witin, reon SSES. Looking if started, writing aAbuka, the dundi guns, a hastry, the guns and I driten a bt for chapters as SIS.Would you bearest and hin a wooker sweet? He says hard ad lost to hear,look at it so set through what what a writtened on n you got be Mnnd, Evertin, one Hundmwi,so sin em crazy for Dinda, but that's thetheripry that a love a lot just rigtin so always hit double whot, because o'fethen got a good tape up but mot. My helps is at dome. You CulTok, quick anywhere sa s, wartn guns. So far to go, and then he says this isfor a Tasta like to publish it. So again there was these two two books wetthen special that sang I'm Goingna, I'mgoing to publish them for Yoa, so that was t I went and carried on den, theDan ofviews wethe, guys that were involved in the guns through thesexties fom. The Sun is an that and eventually completed guns, Af Dond andgovern published at what. If what a you hackups on just before releast Dat, but was I cann't even disclaim, I'm good? Itwas D to see once that you written put Dinen and a book for and th that was the the Portrad brookthat that was proabless Pule Dundee. I thinkeahi think I've got gangs ofDundan Heur Tually because we're actually we're actually queening outstuff, because we've got our lover room done outbreak. I go a lot of stuff inmy room and I've got it in. I got it on...

...my shelf somethig I jjust so yeah. So Igot ive got a copy of it. Soi've got co, so it's cool that was really fantastic. I mean asunsavey a subject as it was the the whole idea behind that wasn't atblorify a gun fightin, because t really was bad at tensn and people moregetting really badly andjucte and coup lik cases, people lost thalace, which is horendous so yeah. I really was to tell the story orthe Don thes PICA gun has to be realli in tha the housen schemes, but e Wan Te lunchnight, and I was Iwas doing at wasstones and that saning cotne. It was just stor pench me sa yetkipat but like to answer your question icin for one form called guns at Don de Yeah and and its went from that one pomto a book which is which a Masin and and yeah, and so so wats the with what you're doing like what kind of things do you havethat connect yourself, because obviously the O, like the dundoingDilat Desover, is very unique and what are some of your favorite wordsthat you'll give them a your poems in that? I'm really intru to PA THEM MORECA. What Andre Awas right stuff doing, because when you get put on this spot,it's likewhatwhat orts! Do I like again, but the Sinse I've got here. Li Back, meain,dreally, Duy, Buck Goga Goga was a tare used whitch again as the Nice we usedto go but nest and Wen wo, Er Bilns...

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...a lot of American influence coming upan be young, kids and T. that's for me. That's why it's real importantto keep the dundia language. Alife Andand just keep a the watch because ththes woods of wats that have been lost even to me and it's great to speak topeople like Chin of wilt and t en Bolleque, and but well tell you that some of theolder ones that t kindo been wost Tamean, Hustsley Yeh in the new o Kin Abilt orthe years,Dondes Bein Tao. They no te because I yeah what's interesting, is when, whenwe, when we were going in to walk them into the wavel system, a CRI was doinglike a wava system, boes and Dundunian, and so I hi K but Pou people said youshould use tecole, but there's other people. That said, what is tecco, soit's kind of peoplbut, it's kind of a bit of boss to really but it' sa Kay ofa new it's kind of new, because a lot of people in Dende culture, coul kindof way wor, Sesan, others Wen for, is and SAS so it'Sso Lik explain more what you wasyour thoughts in the word Cacko like okay, when I first when I firstheard the BOT tackle and we were up on a Amoaneon, weekeend up and Dramar andM cousin. No, this would be thi would be in maybe the matnate isand the my cousin went to the bar and Esis itsays. Do you want tickle Nole whatwhat the Hellis a tickle Itaskin, what...

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...kind of like avocat for Dundoian, dilatwords and day, but there's also that concerned that t keeping this alivebecause thereis there is problems. People are kind of going across likeit's, not it's not really being like talked about. You know, I mean so lik wa. What do you think needs to happen to ensure like more tandillions in thefuture, will usewel keep using these dialect words int, keeping that cultureof dialect deive? It's a great point, Andin. I thinkfrendsom moving positively and withan a what ar the scrools thast. You knowthet, really, when when we were FontryPrimarlyana, your won encouraged after tall t to write any Scott sort or don'tdonatey, I mean ro bom called the Matt. Mcoscey is already talking a wil. He took the story, got batred for theteacher Fo for speaking ory. It's a true story, so you'V got that getting Wat Dobe tospeak, proper and Proe Englash. Put for me, everything that have done kind ofwriten wiys, even wit, the place, the stage Playe of COMTRY, the thepoems an the book laten and it's always beenimportant for me to es or don't you dialect, just Bu, because a fe fairly natural tospeak, like that, and I mean t of course, thes terms of Hit, go on thephone to speak, Swa and Anglosh really, but you now class Dont dos as the tinlanguage that we miss and and it's a get really give people the confidenceto ges. That speak like that, because...

...you won kind of Lok doing a Pon for tha.One thing that you spokeen, that rough Ra dialect seen is very common. So it's great notto see a what othe the schools are promoting youngsters, especially a fretbon sting but te Acto explore the Dondolian language an effect as well hat. What's beengreat of not stoll of the Yearts, it missed with Tix the FO texts, mypolld on Ratn l use to a text and dialect, and it'sgreat o. You know what younger people Dan as well, no even outo people and heit's just a Bood, getting the confidence to see Akan what this is,what I we are and yeah really break into the partyos in Thestruckma orpinking that it's it's a you knot to lesser one wor your common. This thisis whel. We are watwhy, don't you countryin any pep, Scotland or enlind? You should be potded there. The WAY YOUSPEAK! That's way. What er Bon we but theresthe stoll tof people, Wule, Tren Grinde atheend. SE, not n! Don't speaklike that. So a fack. There is a lot of positooa look for Ther Gona, the futureIm seen a war scrols and it I don't know e thin. Just before customer stalwe go commescing Towat, the we pom acustmas and the daft days, and it was, I was lik up like Thas, Vea, zoo, call,Wi kids and is wordan yeah, so I was great otherbilds, an...

...to Tane to rate and theyre in dialectand Ednbur, Lodian and and Writin Scotts, so yeah Coet, keep Kni. Think Ithink it's very important to you know, keep that alive and I think it also itsembaded part of our culture and definitely and h. What do you think called for youin the future? What do you want to do if you got nags for new poms and newbooks or what what you? What d you want to do? It'sit's been a strange jomneybecause there's been no NOC Gong affect fo really what was just writing up the DIAREA SES program. So then thePortwiim did the portry wrote the gun book and then got thePure dunde collection don then istart awaiting a playe aboo. Then the guns watch husn't havebeen staged yet, but thes probably some point in the time I was like stager, hopefully a don deretfi, a Bot.Again there was another bom in the early Das abrout the barly packing called it Twen, a a half pence, a pund,and it was ANA beveris FA. They did. The buses would come Onin to Husanskims and Dundee and e'll be wat. Atay hundreds of people tryng to goon thesebuses to go mex to money. Excuse me Chris Ivdeven SCAP Buck and I is peopleare still scant now, but the barly pucking was was a fun dustet thing so fit fit. The POM Toan a a half pence,the PUND SUSN COM, I' B tage play, and Iwroughte wroot e Bers playof, which was...

...called tone and a half pins. U Pun, so the playrit came rot way were Obseli,you do it yourself, job Wi, we a stitch at the bonder hole. We're done three nights. My wife was ina my daughter, played a weepup and I wasabsolutely nervous. Is it anything when we've donethe Fox Nake, because the three nights hav Sol, I wer, just don three nightsand it's like people crea the water thatll have their money. I hope theyenjoy this and wit. Then three minutes, maybe two minutes the pushes an e, notgro, laughat Tawaik, that was the playwight and came Abojust as another avenue and Events Le Wer got well got accepted in Dundrectfeatr, which fror me was just incredible. Fo, like I say, F, EA,Pak, Groin, a me no nookin a Bonk is reelln, but Rigtn AB. Portlay RitnAnglish or whatever, to end up and the Donderet fetr and IV Bein forwhatever Wol, Sel e Shor odone Aa player with the scarfice, the Budman Setan ating, some Er. What Jas Ma Juale Wat onthe Bunn saw.It was great to speak to the old guys a bit, then the right pens so that thatwas at the playright and become a huge tun for me and good formard. Of course, a couple of ideas boy want aboot in my head and I just need to set Don Getn the O and get righten again,but and between other they gs. The RITN for the Bandwatch Wer in the compandies...

Wel give the the NAM Discusi greatdonty word. We like the so Ma play cin the pot roca and choting the bud POPs as well, but theyare the sons in buntle dialect. So again, tlhat's Promoren and bi OA wholeand play Lord doing it Oli. What a great fols wit made and theyv upset Ome speak the way we're doing songte work for do. Thank you very much, Garyand great having you on just whom just the WAT. You know that Dundiculture is on coffee, so you can buy me a coffee or or buy me a pair as I'veput on hit a, and this helps me continue Dundi culture, and this is fordonations either you can do on a monthly basis or you can do as a oneoff and any donation helps me. I wild dunthe culture because it's managed tohelp me with my STAC Ystan de campaign, which reases thewareness of the CovidNanetein Pandemikin Dundie and really has helped, and I've got quite a fewdonations so far and someon the monthal basis. So I really appreciate all thesupport and it gives me a chance to say thank you to everyone who has supported, and I really can't wait to see whathappens next in the future. For for dunde culture as well. Tankyou ORMA,Tos.

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